More on the thief (I thought we were past that)
Kevin Clark
magicianzero at hotmail.com
Mon Apr 23 04:06:21 CEST 2001
>From: Angelo Toti <donald313us at yahoo.com>
>To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
>Subject: Re: More on the thief (I thought we were past that)
>Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:15:11 -0700 (PDT)
>
> >Not being Uncle Scrooge, I CAN NOT AFFORD to spend
>that much time and
> >creative energy on work with no prospect of paying.
>If anyone can simply
> >come along and take it, without permission and
>without paying me, then the
> >work has no value to me and therefore will not be
>done.
>
>Anyone can simply come along and take it, that's
>right. If nobody did, that's not because of copyright
>laws, but because your site is not interesting enough
>to steal. I have lots of doubts BTW that you can feed
>your children with advertissments placed on your site.
Okay, let me see if I understand the arguments:
Don: "It is wrong to take my material without permission or compensation."
Angelo: "No one wants to take your boring stuff, and anyway, it can't be
making you _that_ much money."
Did I miss a link in the logic, there?
> >When Mr. Totti steals a person's work, he steals that
>person's livelihood.
>
>No. The sites I used don't make the living of anyone.
How about it, Don -- do you see any income from your webwork? That's what's
at issue here: lost income. Not whether or not the sites in question
actually "make the living of anyone".
>The #%$£~@!§ people are not those who use the works of
>others but the ones who harass others because they
>steal their texts or images.
>
>Just because you wrote one line of text one day you
>want everyone to keep asking you forever for
>permission of using that line of text. You make
>something publicly available and then pretend to keep
>an absolute full control on it. I say that is stupid
>on the Internet.
Tell you what, Angelo, I'm going to swipe your wallet without asking and
without telling anyone where I got your credit cards. After all, you made
it publicly available. How can you possibly get angry? It's stupid to
expect to maintain control of your belongings on a public sidewalk. You are
not allowed to press charges, either. That would be "harassing others
because they steal" what is yours.
>I reserve me the right of using any information I can
>find on the Internet anywhere, without mentioning my
>sources. Who cares about the name of the person who
>originally scanned an image?
What makes the Internet so special? Why not just go to your local library,
photocopy _War and Peace_, and publish it under your own name?
>The internet will always be a big mess where you can
>find
>pirated softwares, copyrighted music, games (to name
>the three most populars)
>etc. for free. That is not extravagant, that is the
>truth.
Yes, that's true. And I will always be physically capable of picking your
pocket, as above. This does not mean that it should be allowed.
For an example of a webpage that seems to understand that whole copyright
thing, see http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Cinema/1543
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